In an effort to bust up the government’s case, defense lawyers in the Hutaree militia case this week disclosed some of the government’s secret recordings, including a conversation at a wedding in which an undercover agent and two Hutaree members discussed alleged roadside bombs.
The defense disclosed the recording as part of an effort to show that just because militia members were talking about alleged roadside bombs doesn’t mean there was any actual plan to build them, use them or violently overthrow the government.
In court documents filed Tuesday in federal court in Detroit, defense attorneys Richard Helfrick and Todd Shanker cited the wedding conversation that took place March 13 — two weeks before nine Hutaree members were arrested in FBI raids.
During the conversation, an undercover agent urges Hutaree leader David Stone Sr. to obtain road signs so that he can begin constructing alleged improvised explosive devices (IEDs).
Agent: “OK. Once we get everything, how fast do you want those?”
Joshua Stone: “We’ll have lots of money probably.”
David Stone Sr.: “Well, let’s do a forecast.”
Agent: “As soon as I get (to) it.”
David Stone: “Uh, as far as any kind of mass order? … Uh, early fall.”
Undercover agent: “Really? Wow. OK.”
The agent then repeatedly asks David Stone whether there is a specific target, in reference to the alleged plot against local officers outlined in the group’s indictment.
David Stone: “No…. It’s just like when we were talking earlier, we could be anywhere.”
Defense lawyers argued the conversation doesn’t reveal any real plan to use the weapons, nor does it show a plot to harm local police, as alleged in the indictment.
Helfrick and Shanker are representing David Stone Jr., 20, of Adrian, the adopted son of Hutaree leader David Stone Sr. They are seeking to dismiss Stone Jr.’s case and are requesting a special pretrial hearing where the government must prove that a conspiracy existed and that the defendants were part of it.
The government, however, has argued in court documents that a special hearing would be “burdensome, time-consuming and uneconomical” and that the facts and the indictment “returned by a legally constituted and unbiased grand jury are enough” to proceed to trial.
Farooque Ahmed Nailed By FBI Due His Own Confessions To Undercover FBI Agents
The man who was charged in an alleged plot to blow up Metrorail stations in Northern Virginia came to the FBI’s attention as he was asking people about ways to fight American troops in Afghanistan and Pakistan, as reported by the court records unsealed Thursday.
Farooque Ahmed, age 34, who resides in Loudoun County, told that he was ready to martyr himself in battle. He told this to undercover FBI operatives who he thought were al-Qaeda terrorists, the records say. He had self-trained in martial arts, use of firearms, and knife and gun tactics.
The reports also say that he offered to teach those skills to others and purchase additional firearms for jihad.
Ahmed has been charged with conspiring and supporting al-Qaeda in a plan to bomb Metro stations in Arlington. The plot was actually a trap by the FBI authorities which was unknown to Ahmed.
The 12-page sworn affidavit which is in support of a warrant to search Ahmed’s Ashburn home and bank accounts, also suggests that Ahmed played a major part of the plot by providing surveillance and reconnaissance and offering his opinion on the ways to generate the most casualties.
The affidavit which has been signed by FBI Special Agent Charles A. Dayoub had details about a grim 10-month courtship that began in January.
San Francisco Police Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell was killed by shrapnel from an anti-personnel bomb built and planted by Bill Ayers’ wife, Bernardine Dohrn, according to an FBI report
A former undercover FBI informant who once spied on 1970s anti-war radicals who bombed government offices is calling on Congress to set up a committee or task force to bring “terrorists” – including those who may be in high and influential positions today – to justice.
The request comes from Larry Grathwohl, whose book “Bringing Down America – An FBI Informer with the Weathermen” alleges Bill Ayers, a friend of President Obama, told Grathwohl that Bernardine Dohrn, who later became Ayers’ wife, placed a pipe bomb outside a San Francisco Police Department building Feb. 16, 1970.
The shrapnel from the anti-personnel bomb’s explosion killed Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell. Another officer, Robert Fogarty, was wounded in the face and legs and left partially blind.
Grathwohl’s plan was outlined in remarks prepared for the Marxism in America conference sponsored yesterday by America’s Survival in Washington.
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Grathwohl also appears in a series of videos to explain his concerns over the still-open case along with Cliff Kincaid, president of America’s Survival, and Max Noel, a former FBI agent and member of the Weatherman Task Force.
“My greatest fear today is that the Department of Justice (under Obama appointee Eric Holder) will protect these terrorists by blocking an attempt to bring them to justice,” Grathwohl said. “Consider that President Obama held his first fundraiser at the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn when he was running for the state Senate in Illinois.
“Do you think there might be some resistance to placing these two people on trial for the murder of Brian McDonnell? These are President Obama’s friends. He and Bill served on a board and appeared at functions together.”
Grathwohl said a resolution would be for Congress to act.
“I urge the new Congress to create a committee or subcommittee to facilitate the efforts of law enforcement in bringing terrorists to justice. For example, a new House Internal Security Committee can assist in that regard. The Senate could consider reinstating a Senate Internal Security subcommittee. Such committees should also investigate the groups that represent a current danger to the internal security of this country,” he said.
William Ayers
“The Marxist terror threat has not gone away, as we have seen with the recent FBI raids on U.S.-based Marxist groups suspected of providing assistance to foreign terrorist groups in the Middle East and Latin America. Some Marxists are now openly supporting what they call ‘revolutionary Islam.’ Osama bin Laden is recommending anti-American books written by U.S. ‘progressives,'” he said.
WND previously reported on the links that appear to connect Ayers and Dohrn to far more violence that they might be comfortable recognizing.
WND reported last year when top law enforcement officers in San Francisco signed a letter accusing Ayers and Dohrn of being directly behind the bombing, but the Obama Justice Department then told them not to comment on the case.
At that 2009 press conference, directed by Kincaid, the leaders of the San Francisco Police Officers’ Association made public a letter pointing a finger at Ayers and Dohrn that demanded those responsible for the bombing be brought to justice.
“There are irrefutable and compelling reasons to believe that Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn are largely responsible for the bombing of Park Police Station,” the officers stated in the letter.
The San Francisco Chronicle then reported the police group members who signed the letter received calls from the Justice Department and a local police chief telling them to remain silent.
Larry Grathwohl
No one has been charged in the bombing. Ayers, a Weatherman founder, has denied involvement. In an interview with the New Yorker, Ayers said, “We killed no one and hurt no one.”
Of the McDonnell bombing, Grathwohl has quoted Ayers saying, “It was a success. But it’s a shame when someone like Bernardine has to make all the plans, make the bomb and then place it herself. She should have to do only the planning.”
In the conference remarks, Grathwohl said, “The charges have not yet been brought in this ‘cold case’ but I can tell you that a law enforcement entity called the Phoenix Task Force is working to solve the murder of Sergeant McDonnell as well as other police officers who died in the line of duty during that period of Weather Underground violence and terrorism.”
Grathwohl continued, “Justice can still be done. And that is why I am here today. I have recently met with the lieutenant in charge of the Phoenix Task Force. … He assures me that the effort remains focused and the motivation is to gather the evidence and bring the killers to justice. I should add that the murder of Sergeant John Young by the Black Liberation Army when they attacked the Ingleside Police Station in 1971 has been solved and successfully prosecuted.”
He also suggested there reasonably could be a sense of urgency over the investigations.
“Let me say that we cannot rule out the possibility that remnants of the Weather Underground network still exist, protecting terrorists and facilitating their activities. It is significant that the FBI recently updated its ‘Most Wanted’ listing for Leo Frederick Burt, accused of bombing the University of Wisconsin, on August 24, 1970, killing a 33-year-old researcher and causing $6 million in damage to the building. He is still on the run. Burt was not a member of the Weather Underground but a spin-off group,” he said.
The conference also addressed the work of Paul Kengor, whose new book “Dupes” shows how “progressives” have been manipulated by international communist concerns.
Kincaid also addressed what the Frank Marshall Davis archives at Washington University in St. Louis reveal about the communist connections and associations of Obama’s childhood mentor.
Ok. you tell me how much this is worth in tUL’s tip jar…
I used to believe my eyes, but thanks to doubt and assimilation I’ve changed my mind. Now considering the amount I hear, I have to take days if not months to find concrete supporting evidence before I go cockarell with a full crown at sunrise. Arlington, Texas and Fort Wort, Texas, CNN listed in the top four rankings of cities with the best water supply in the U.S.A. I followed some of both stories over time . What bolstered my suspicions was playing down in the allegedly “no trespassing” parts of waterways (In my defense there was no sign.). During the best of times in other jobs the whispers and bodiless voices articulated revenge for those green and who know how to stay biologically clean in and out. Personally speaking, cataclysm forced those two cities to improve water quality. Although I have no culprit to which to point, but I did come across an article talking about strategic protection of Texas’s water infrastructure being a point of great lacking. And there was no plan for changing that in the future.
Take that, coupled with the public broadcasting systems’ documentary about water wars, drilling and development in Texas. The shadow side of me wants to suggests corporate sabotage, espionage and maybe toss in a radical group or two. Throw in a backroom whisper or a soccer mom on the telephone in the backyard gaffawing over someones possession of a biological weapon somewhere between Azle and Rockwall and you have the making of the world tUL gleans on what seems a regular basis.
Take this with a grain of salt. Some of it is here say. Some of it is foggy memory. Some of it is recounting years old. But the makings of a good story from an inclination and a whim.
Fluted Frog, Esq.
Writer’s Note: Like in speeches don’t open by apologizing and most certainly don’t apologize for you opinion when you are writing. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Which means you have just as much right to speak your mind articulately as another. On one hand Frog, we can use your opinions to fertilize others. Crap that don’t fertilize, is just a waste of time. Let the readership evolve their own opinions. Give a homosapien a chance to think, they might stand up for themselves.
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
WASHINGTON: The number of US hate crime victims rose slightly last year to nearly 9,700 from 9,500 in 2007, with most people targeted because of their skin colour, the FBI said on Monday. More than half of hate crimes committed in the United States were racially motivated, and three-quarters of the victims were black, the FBI’s annual report on hate crimes said.Of the 6,927 known perpetrators of all hate crimes — which include attacks driven by not only racial bias but also by the victims’ religious affiliation, sexual orientation, ethnic origins or disability — 61 per cent were white. Blacks perpetrated attacks in around 20 per cent of cases. The report was compiled after the issue of race was thrust into the centre of US politics with African American Barack Obama’s successful bid to be elected the first black president of the United States.
Around 17 per cent of hate crime victims were attacked because of their sexual orientation, the overwhelming majority, 96 per cent, because they were gay or lesbian.
Nearly 20 per cent were attacked for their religious affiliation, with Jews making up around two-thirds of the victims of those attacks. Muslims were the targets of less than eight per cent of religious hate crimes, putting them in third place behind Jews and followers of unspecified “other religions” attacked in 13 per cent of religion-fueled hate crimes.
In 2007, Muslims represented about eight per cent of victims attacked because of their religion, and in 2006 they made up 12 per cent of victims of religion-motivated hate crimes.
Members of the large US Hispanic community were victims of 64 per cent, or nearly two-thirds, of the 1,148 hate crimes driven by a bias against a person’s ethnicity or national origin.
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